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Interview with former AMC TV host Bob Dorian

A while back I wrote an essay comparing the two primary classic movie channels on cable/satellite, Do classic movies need to be censored? AMC versus TCM. In the article I talked about former AMC host Bob Dorian and lamented his departure from the channel which, I still believe, was the beginning of its downfall.

You can imagine my delight when a few months later I noticed I'd gotten a comment from Melissa Dorian, AMC host Bob Dorian's daughter, saying that her dad had read my piece and loved it.

Sweet! I emailed her back and asked if Bob would be willing to answer some interview questions. After much back and forth, and even more time passing, we completed our email interview...

Were you ever in the movies, Bob?

"Yes, I've been in the movies at least once a week from the time I was about seven. But I've appeared in very few. Woody Allen's Curse of the Jade Scorpion, and Hollywood Ending; an award winning independent Civil War film called Strike the Tent which also featured Mickey Rooney, Tipi Hedren and Amy Redford.

According to some cult film enthusiasts, my greatest achievement was The Evil Dead (directed by Sam Raimi, long before his association with Spiderman) "I was the voice on the tape that launched a reign of terror on all those poor unsuspecting teenagers.�

What makes a film a Classic?

Classics are films you want to see over and over again. Timeless films. Films that worked in the past, still work today and will continue to work in the future.

How old are you?

AMC TV host and actor Bob Dorian as a young boy
Bob Dorian as a young actor
Douglas Fairbanks Jr. once told me a story about how he and Cary Grant flipped a coin to decide who should play which part when they were making Gunga Din. When they were flipping that coin... I was five. [Note: the entertaining Gunga Din came out in 1939 so.. 1938 minus five years = 1933]

How many movies do you watch in a week?

About six or eight; mostly on TCM. For the most part, I don't care for AMC's erratic library and those films I might choose to watch are ruined by commercials. [amen, brother!]

How did AMC come about?

Back in the early eighties, I was called upon to play Dracula in a TV spot for an early video game. It was a very long two day shoot, with most of my time spent in a tight coffin filled with way too much smoke. Lunchtime usually lapsed into long conversations about all those great old movies the producer and I enjoyed when we were growing up.

In one of those odd-ball coincidences that seem to happen from time to time (for those of us who are honest enough to admit accident over talent), I had a call from this same producer about two years later. "Norm Blumenthal," the voice on the other end of the phone said, "Remember me? We did those Dracula spots together." (How could I forget? My lungs still hurt.) There's a new channel called AMC", he said, "and they're looking for an announcer to introduce old movies. I told them what they needed was an actor not an announcer, someone who grew up with these films. Would you be interested?�

Among the people they were looking at, at the time were two Broadway actors, a well known TV film critic and a few others who were more involved in writing as a profession. After "call backs" I heard the powers that be had been thinking of pairing the TV critic and me as a sort of Siskal and Ebert duo. Interestingly, one of the AMC execs said "Wait a minute. The critic might not be too crazy about some of the films we've brought in. This guy Dorian likes everything!" That was it.

What are your favorite films and why?

There are just too many films, and too many reasons why I like them to answer that in 500 words or less. But, I'll give it a try.

Let's start with Citizen Kane. Not so much the story, but the way it was told, by a 25 year-old genius who'd never before directed. Every scene includes a subtle special effect the audience never sees. Greg Toland's deep focus photography. Here’s a question for you… If Kane he was alone when he died, who heard him utter those final words?

Casablanca: one of the greatest love stories ever told. They were writing the script one day at a time; no one knew where it was going. Bogart hated it. Bergman thought it was silly. Nobody knew how it was going to end. That famous last line, "Louis, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship" didn't start out that way. The original was "Louis, I might have known you'd mix your patriotism with a little larceny."

Fred and Ginger movies: The Gay Divorcee, Top Hat and Swing Time are particular favorites. [I'll vote for Swing Time given that short list]

All About Eve. Suffering from a cracked vertebra, Claudette Colbert was replaced by Bette Davis for the role of Margo Channing. I can't imagine anyone else ever playing that part.

Pygmalion: Leslie Howard and Wendy Hiller ('38) Several scenes, not in Shaw's original, found their way into Learner and Lowe's 50's classic My Fair Lady. [how can anyone not like this wonderful film?]

AMC host and actor Bob Dorian, olderSingin' in the Rain: the all-too-true story of the shift from the silent screen to talkies. Gene Kelly's classic title song will live forever and Donald O'Connor's Make 'em Laugh number, I think, is one of the greatest comedy song and dance routines ever put on film. [this is also one of my kids favorite films, as it happens]

Twentieth Century: classic Barrymore.

Dinner At Eight: Marie Dressler has one of the most memorable closing lines in Hollywood history: Jean Harlow: I was reading this nutty kind of book… this guy says that machinery is going to take the place of everything." Marie Dressler (eying her up and down) replies, "Oh my dear, that's something you need never worry about."

Others in no particular order: The Wizard of Oz, His Girl Friday, Bringing up Baby, The Day The Earth Stood Still, the original Frankenstein, Dracula, The Invisible Man, King Kong, The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Gunga Din, It's a Wonderful Life, Nightmare Alley, You Can't Take It With You, 42nd Street, The House On 92nd Street, Easter Parade, Little Miss Marker, Meet Me In St. Louis, Rear Window, Spellbound…

50's
Sunset Boulevard (Gloria Swanson - No one could have come close to that performance), Cyrano De Bergerac and Destination Moon.

60's
Dr. Strangelove (the negative is gone!), The Graduate and The Producers.

70's
The Sting, Godfathers I and II, Jaws, Network (an unfortunately accurate prophecy of what the media was to become), All the President's Men, Manhattan, Annie Hall, and Mrs. Henderson Presents.

80's
My Favorite Year, Radio Days, Broadway Danny Rose (You can see I'm a Woody Allen fan)

90's
Bullets Over Broadway

tcm host robert osborne
TCM host Robert Osborne
Do you know TCM host Robert Osborne?

Like yourself, I admire what Robert Osborn does. I've never met him but I'm sure we'd have a lot in common. The major difference between us is that Osborne is a film historian. I'm hardly that. What I am is an actor and a fan. I love good films (and a lot of bad ones), and I know a lot of great stories.

On a more theoretical note, do you think we should we separate the artists' work from their personal lives?

Yes, I think one has nothing do with the other. But, when the artist tries to impose his or her personal views on the public at large, I see a problem. People have a tendency to give celebrities far more credibility then they deserve. The reason we see them on product endorsements is because their influence affects millions. The truth is, celebrities don't know any more than you or I do; often they know a lot less. The problem is we believe them - especially if they're on television. Beal said it best:

HOWARD BEAL
We deal in illusions man, none of it is true. But you, sit there, day after day, night after night, all ages, colors, creeds… We're all you know! You're beginning to believe the illusions we're spinning here. You're beginning to think that the tube is reality, and that your own lives are unreal. You DO - whatever the tube tells you, you dress like the tube, you eat like the tube, you raise your children like the tube, you even have sex like the tube; this is - mass madness, you maniacs! In God's name, you people are the real thing. WE - are the illusion!

Do you believe that? — I do.

Many thanks to both Melissa and Bob Dorian for this fascinating interview. Now to get Robert Osborne to answer the same questions...


Posted by Dave Taylor at February 11, 2009 10:45 AM
Comments

Great interview, Dave.

I also prefer Turner Classic Movies (TCM) because it has no commercial interruptions

Posted by: Chuck Eglinton at February 11, 2009 12:21 PM

That was fascinating. Unfortunately, I never got to see AMC when it was good. I read somewhere (not sure if it's true) that like TCM, AMC was supposed to provide commercial-free non-censured movies and for some reason they put commercials and censure movies anyway. I wonder what's the story there.

Did you pee your pants when you realized he was the voice from Evil Dead?

Posted by: People in the Sun at February 11, 2009 4:01 PM

I didn't watch TV for eight years between the years my son was 2 until he was 10. He asked for cable television for his 10th birthday. Oddly enough we still don't watch much TV, but mostly On Demand movies. I missed the whole AMC era. We both prefer more inter-active type of media, and watch moviesas a special event ... sitting in the living room ... and we talk about what is happening in the film.
Catherine
PS. I was told to come see your blog because we share a similar theme ... and we do!

Posted by: A Week In The Life of A Redhead at February 13, 2009 12:25 PM

I would so dearly love for TCM to invite Bob to co-host its "The Essentials" one year. But I know he's not enough of a "name" for that.

The old AMC was wonderful. Bob, Nick Clooney, "Remember WENN", the AMC Film Preservation Festival...*sigh*...

Posted by: Motown Mike at March 15, 2009 6:09 PM

This was a outstanding interview, it was a plesure to read it. I had wonder what happen to the hosts of AMC Bob Dorian & Nick Clooney. I like the old "AMC" no commercials.

I was trying to enjoy a movie today on AMC "Hang'em High" to many commercials they interruped the flow of the movie.

I would like to see Bob Dorian and Nick Clooney do an essential on a Sunday with Robert Osborne.

Posted by: vincent of miami, fl at March 31, 2009 6:12 PM

Thank you for this interview and information.
I miss Bob Dorian and his stories on the movies, we were devoted fans.

Because of the changes and commercials, we no longer watch AMC.

BIG MISTAKE !

Frank and Mary

Posted by: Mary Spencer at April 12, 2009 2:30 PM

I remember watching AMC religiously in the 80's and 90's, subscribing to their monthly magazine and enjoying Bob Dorian's commentary. It was such a treat to watch a film, usually an older classic not shown on the premium cable channels with no commercials. What a shock to one day tune in and have annoying ads popping up, right in the middle of a line of dialog sometimes! I guess that was in the early 2000's and I have not watched a movie on AMC since. It became just another commercial filled, bothersome channel to be avoided at all costs. If I happen to see a movie listed on AMC that I have not seen or would like to see, I'll make a note of it and go rent it if I can!

I love TCM nowadays, and watch IT religiously. So much fascinating history to be learned.

I always wondered what happened to Bob Dorian, so I googled him and came up with this blog. Very good! I'm happy to hear is still actively in "the business".

Bill In Tonawanda, NY

Posted by: Bill at April 13, 2009 3:20 PM

I miss the old AMC with Bob Dorian as the host of so many classic movies without commercials. He was so full of trivia that I will never forget. He was a big part of my major interest in classic movies on AMC. It is too bad, but I guess it has become a commercial money driven world.
I Miss Bob Dorian!

Posted by: Jerry at April 16, 2009 2:42 PM

Just found this blog by searching for Bob Dorian. I too miss his insight into old films. I am so glad that TCM still has unraped films in its vaults.
I too would like to see a round table with Bob Dorian, Nick Clooney, Robert Osborne and Ben Mankewitz. (please forgive my misspelling of your name.) It would be a great course in filmology.

As far as Citizen Kane: I too wondered how the whole "Rosebud" inquiry started if Kane died alone. Also: I just read a script to "RKO 281" and I have a copy of that DVD. Question: Is Ben Mankawitz of TCM related to the Mank who wrote "Citizen Kane"?

Thank you for a great interview.
Paul

Posted by: Paul Yearwood at July 17, 2009 7:58 PM

Great interview - I'm glad to see Bob's still active and as enthused as ever. It's amazing that, despite his very revealing historical cinema commentary, personal bio info was never a part of it.

Illustrative, perhaps, was his comment, with which I whole heartedly agree, that the artist's work must be kept apart from their personal lives. In fact, my appreciation of their work is adversely affected by some of the statements these performers are called upon to grace us with. Somehow they develop the notion that publicity translates into expertise.

A true gentleman and a class act...

Posted by: Beboper at August 24, 2009 2:41 AM

Incredibly excellent interview! Loved Mr. Dorian on AMC (have the Tracy-Hepburn classic, "Desk Set" from AMC, New Year's 1988-89 on tape, one of my all-time favorites...and Mr. Dorian made it all the more enjoyable=). Agree with MUCH of what he spoke about here, and would love to see him and Robert Osborne together on TCM!

Thanks again and God bless you.

Posted by: rhapsody at October 16, 2009 7:48 PM

Great interview. And his assertions all seem true if not believable. I loved it when he'd come out with this really profound observation or recollection or story, and you'd slap you head and go "WOW!!!!", and he'd say, in the lowest key manner POSSIBLE, "now, let's look at this...".

I loved that! He was so understated when he wanted to be. He had the great stories and classy understatement, which is why I liked him a bit better than Mr. Osborne, who is good nonetheless. And ayeeeemen on the advertisements!

Posted by: Jeff at October 31, 2009 7:59 PM

I remember and enjoyed Bob Dorian. He had an informative, laid-back manner. AMC was a competitor of TCM, and Bob Dorian was part of the reason. Commercials, designed for the futile, have eliminated AMC as watchable by many. Happily, we still have TCM and Robert Osborne.

Posted by: Steve at November 1, 2009 7:51 AM

I do so miss AMC and Bob Dorian. I discovered AMC in 1988 during a stay-at-home from work during
recovery from surgery. AMC was my favorite channel, as TCM is now. When I turned the tv on one day, and saw a commercial for the USPostal Service, I thought I was accidentally on the wrong channel.
Later, seeing an Elvira look-alike introduce a movie ended my patience and love affair with AMC. Glad I have memories of AMC with Mr. Dorian, and so glad he is doing well. What a treat it would be to see him on TCM one day with Mr. Osborne - 2 wonderful hosts on the same screen. Here's hoping they make it happen.

Posted by: Connie at November 4, 2009 6:23 PM

There was a question about Ben Mankiewicz. He is the grandson of Herman Mankiewicz who, along with Orson Welles, wrote Citizen Kane.

When TCM first came out, most of the original widescreen movies were presented in that format causing AMC to have a campaign on the widescreen format. There was a time when Bob Dorian had great intros and closings, but as he neared his end with AMC, most of his intros were shortened to under a minute and his closing were 30 seconds or less. Hindsight is 20-20 but that was the beginning of the end of AMC; at least the way we all knew and loved it. I thought Nick Clooney did a great job also. However, you can't say who was better; you just appreciated them the way they were.

I love Robert Osborne and he comes to Sedona for our movie festival but he has lost some serious weight and I hope it's just from a diet. If anything ever happens to him, I fear TCM may go a similar way that AMC did as Ben Mankiewicz is only 42 and likes a lot of the newer movies. Not that there aren't some great ones, I just like the real oldies but goodies. Here's a list of some that I'd like to see if they're not burnt out.

"The Third Voice" 1960 with Edmond O'Brien, Laraine Day and Julie London:
"An Inspector Calls" 1954 with Alastair Sim:
"The Constant Nymph" 1943 with a fabulous cast including Charles Boyer, Joan Fontaine and Alexis Smith:

Posted by: Kevin Cushman, Sedona Arizona at November 23, 2009 11:16 PM

I, too, loved AMC in the 90s, before commercials, pop ups, and "modern tastes" took over. My fondest memories are of Remember WENN, on which Bob Dorian appeared several times as a frustrated sponsor. All of that is gone now, and it is a huge loss for those who recall when television meant wholesome entertainment.

Posted by: David Kier at November 28, 2009 9:50 PM

Could we get a petition together to get Bob Dorian and the old AMC format back! I loved the movies and the format! I would watch AMC even after the movies were over and see interesting facts and occupations. For instance, the model who dressed in different clothes and did self portrait painting! Such a different time! It was nostalgia at its best! I once saw Bob Dorian when he came to tell stories before a screening of Rogers and Hammerstein's Oklahoma in Denver's historic Paramount Theatre! The place was packed! What a night!

Posted by: Myron Chandler at December 1, 2009 1:33 AM

I miss the old AMC als, commercials ruin the flow of the films. Movies were meant to be viewed with no interruptions. I simply quit watching AMC and now watch TCM exclusively when it comes to Classic Films. I prefer the films of the 30's 40's and 50's

Posted by: Jim at December 1, 2009 10:29 PM

I met Bob Dorian twenty years ago after I had just played Eliza Doolittle in My Fair Lady in Cleveland, and he had just played Henry Higgins in My Fair Lady on Long Island, where I was originally from. I had watched AMC back then, when it was free of commercial interruption and when they refused to air black and white films that were butchered by adding color.

I visited the AMC studios with my twin sister, and presented him with a special poem written by a professional poet I hired, that expressed my love for old movies, and my bond with Mr. Dorian due to our mutual love for My Fair Lady and the roles each of us played. He gave us a tour of the AMC studios, and took us to lunch. I still have the photos, and remember that time with much fondness.

I was so sad to see how AMC had changed, and of course, to no longer see him as host.

Bob, if you are reading this, I never did play Eliza again, but it is a memory I will treasure forever!

Your friend,
Linda

Posted by: Linda at December 28, 2009 7:08 PM

bob dorian and I worked for the same radio sation back in the Jurassic days. I had the pleasure of doing a lot of radio commercials with bob. He, I remember was an extremely talented man with his finger on every aspect of the show business pie. I hope he is well and doing the thing he loves which is every aspecy of show business....

Posted by: bob klein at January 11, 2010 6:44 PM

Bob was great on AMC and the Remember WENN production was really good.
Now-No Bob Dorian AND tons of commerical interuptions AND AMC interuptions telling you all about their upcoming shows bla, bla, bla.

I might watch AMC about 1 time per year now.
The only good thing about AMC is that you can leave to go shopping or whatever and when you return (because of all interuptions) you haven't miss a thing!

Bob was a great host-I miss him.

Posted by: Glenn at January 17, 2010 7:39 AM
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 • Why do so many people use F$#@$# obscenities?
 • Disney Mobile: The first innovation out of Disney in a long time
 • Wal*Mart expands into natural and organic foods
 • Who knew blacksmith work was so darn fun?
 • Who buys this stuff for their kids?
 • Driving with a whiny baby must be the third circle of Hell
 • My daughter the knitting machine!
 • Learn how to swim in a spa?
 • Distance needed between doctors and Big Pharma?
 • Ways to know whether your infant could be teething
 • Teach your baby sign language
 • Why don't companies stick behind their products? Maclaren Strollers, Inc.
 • What happened to quality control with toys?
 • Could we all just buy a bit less each year?
 • Coke and Pepsi: Liability from selling soda in schools?
 • Acupuncture for Children and Adults
 • I survived my day at the zoo with five 9yo girls!
 • Why comic books aren't so terrible for kids
 • Kids as philosophers, or finding meaning in skeeball
 • What would happen to your children if you died?
 • When did Halloween become so darn dangerous?
 • Why it's foolish to underestimate your children
 • One big reason we don't take our kids to the movie theater
 • Of cheating spouses and spanking parents
 • Research shows prolonged crying lowers IQ in babies
 • Why are ex-husbands sometimes such jerks?
 • Why we don't hit our kids
 • Is there anything cuter than baby talk?
 • Can children survive without corn syrup?
 • 5yo boy + pair of scissors = scary haircut!
 • Don't forget to tell your kids you love them!
 • "Amazing Amanda" crushes imagination with servos and RFID
 • Jury duty scam leads to identity theft
 • The lure of being single again?
 • A curious travel question: irons in hotel rooms?
 • EPA tacitly endorses testing pesticides on children?
 • What is Attachment Parenting?
 • Why can't we buy or sell a used carseat?
 • An Ethical Dilemma: Someone in your school is a registered sex offender?
 • FTC touts kids see fewer TV ads selling food, but the study is predictably bogus
 • I'm proud of my sister's beautiful art!
 • Avoiding work at home scams
 • Bras designed for girls growing up fast
 • Babies have personalities!
 • Those darn too long days of summer
 • Breast is still best, even if it's Dad's??
 • Travel tips for families this summer
 • How Computers Make Our Kids Stupid
 • Why parents associate summer with spending
 • Dave's secret trick for calming a hysterical child
 • Sometimes being right is far less important than just having fun
 • Warning: never let your baby play with the phone!
 • Parenting as talking to a brick wall?
 • Another of those "only a parent would laugh" moments
 • My journey to becoming an Attachment Parenting Dad
 • Should a man wear a wedding ring?
 • An AP parent on the benefit of no-media children
 • The perfect washer, or social engineering at its worst?
 • Take your Parents to School Day?
 • First week of weight gain sets lifelong weight patterns? I don't think so.
 • EPA cancels pesticide tests on Floridian babies
 • Standing your ground with discipline
 • Jack Welch says: forget it. You can't balance business and personal life
 • PBS introduces "PBS Kids Sprout" a new digital babysitter
 • Why are kid-friendly bathrooms so hard to find?
 • When does bedtime become other than a nightmare?
 • The Little Boy and the Monkeys: Children's picture book, needs pictures....
 • More schools are saying "no" to brands and logos
 • Why do so many men cheat on their spouses?
 • What's the toughest thing about being a father?
 • Breastfeeding and the Law
 • Waldorf Schools and the challenge of values-based organizations
 • We'll help you pick a great baby name!
 • How come parents never talk about parenting?
 • Another reason to be suspicious of parenting book authors
 • Scholastic succumbs to the siren song of corporate sponsorship of education
 • What would you suggest to this tired Mom?
 • What dreams have you dreamt today?
 • Vaccinations and the fear of getting sick
 • The challenge of being The Toy Police during the Holidays
 • Eventually, just about every kid has homework
 • The essence of good toys
 • Giving up on Privacy as part of Parenting
 • Five million reasons per year to discourage your kids from smoking
 • ... And on Halloween, the Candy Fairy Visited Our House!
 • A house full of sick children
 • More Dads are spending more time with their children
 • Are all children inveterate collectors?
 • How loud is too loud? How much should children be protected?
 • A Conference to Attend: Waldorf in the Home
 • Our long-term birth control option of choice: a vasectomy
 • What's one word that never shows up in parenting books?
 • Kindergarten Boarding School
 • Breastfed babies make happier adults?
 • Is Your Adoption Agency Legit?
 • Coming soon: Articles from "The Compleat Mother"
 • Father's Day and the Conundrum of Modern Economics
 • The real challenge of cosleeping: bed space!
 • Happy Mother's Day?
 • Update on bicycles and training wheels
 • Win a $25 Amazon Gift Certificate for adding a link!
 • When is a baby too young for a stroller?
 • A key attachment parenting virtue: patience
 • Taxes, Money and Debt. The big three?
 • A biological reason for teen laziness?
 • Is a toy without a microchip heresy?
 • Can't get your baby immobilized at night? Now there's a solution
 • Google likes Shining Light Books
 • Dealing with irrational fears
 • New Babies and Baby Names
 • Happy New Year!
 • Things really do unfold when it's time
 • Safe Surfing for Your Children
 • The Ebbs and Flows of Attachment Parenting
 • Sometimes you get a brief glimpse of what will be...
 • Funny Waldorf Lightbulb Jokes
 • Australian debate on breastfeeding
 • Scary bike accident, resilient children
 • A week of firsts...
 • Attachment Parenting Thought for the week
 • The Joy of Consistency
 • More on rhythms and summertime
 • The importance of schedules, even in the summer
 • "Eating your own dogfood"
 • Strategies pay off, sometimes
 • Chaos is sure to ensue!
 • When they're not ready to sleep...
 • Sleep Deprivation: The Essential Attachment Parenting Experience
 • Welcome Aboard!