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General Pace says homosexuality is immoral. So?I'm a bit baffled by the rabid response people are having to a recent statement by General Peter Pace, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in Washington DC. In an interview he was asked about the rather daft "don't ask, don't tell" policy that allows homosexuals to be in the United States military if they keep a sufficiently low profile. His response was that he thought the current policy was inappropriate: "[It] to me says that we, by policy, would be condoning what I believe is immoral activity, and therefore, as an individual, I would not want that to be our policy." Okay, so he thinks that homosexuality is immoral. Isn't it his right to have an opinion, don't we want military leaders who have a strong sense of morality, and are illuminated by their spiritual or religious beliefs, not the latest CNN poll? Notice that what General Pace didn't say was "I'm going to get rid of this policy" or "I'm going to ferret out all gays and throw them out of the military!" He's just speaking his own mind, sharing his own personal views on what is right and wrong. I might not agree with his perspective one iota, but I respect him for having the guts to speak his mind and certainly am in favor of us having people running the military who have such a clear sense of right and wrong, not just wimpy marshmallows who do whatever the Command in Chief tells them. While I'm ranting a bit here, I have to say that the "don't ask, don't tell" policy is one of the very stupidest ways to not face an issue I have ever seen from the government! It's neither an endorsement of homosexuality or a condemnation of it, it's not one that approves of gays in the military or says they shouldn't be there. It's ... a masterful example of how you can balance on a fence and never really commit to either side, and it's a sad way to run the most powerful nation in the world. I'd rather have the military come out openly and state that people of any sexual orientation are welcome as long as they're good soldiers, respectful of their peers and commanders, and faithful and patriotic to their country. I mean, when they're in a tent alone, does it really make any difference what kind of combination or action is happening? Alternatively, if they were to make a clear and strong statement that non-heterosexual orientation was grounds for being either rejected from the military in the first place or drummed out of the service, then wouldn't it be reasonable to also extend that to other presumably anti-social behaviors in this realm, like rape? If a female cadet accuses a male cadet of rape, they aren't even kicked out of military school, let alone the service. Nonetheless, regardless of your beliefs about the appropriateness of homosexuals in the modern military, do you agree that General Pace should be allowed the right to his own opinion, not lambasted for daring to speak something that isn't pandering to the politically correct crowd? [references: Senator Brownback, Redstate, Washington Post, Accuracy in Media and SF Chronicle, just to name a few...] Posted by Dave Taylor at March 14, 2007 9:27 PM
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I think that our society in general is headed in a very bad direction: telling people what they should or should not believe. I think this is especially true of elected officials and our country's highest officers, and I think it is largely media-influenced. What happens when people are afraid to express their beliefs in public? I think that leads to people being afraid to hold any beliefs at all, except those "accepted" by society. General Pace is a person, not a robot -- we shouldn't expect him to hold to someone else's beliefs. When freedom of belief is repressed, what kind of backwards society does that make us? Posted by: Harmony at March 15, 2007 6:23 AMHis personal opinion didn't belong in his testimony. What does it have to do with military policy? Nothing. It was completely inappropriate, and really disrespectful toward all the gay people in uniform currently risking life and limb under his command. Posted by: MommaSteph at March 15, 2007 1:25 PMCorrection: I wrote testimony, but it was actually a press briefing. Nevertheless, he was in uniform, speaking in his official capacity. I don't care what his personal opinion is of gays. But to speak out on this publicly, in uniform, for the world to hear, was wrong. At least he admitted it. Posted by: MommaSteph at March 15, 2007 1:36 PMI completely disagree, obviously. He wasn't offering up an official position, he wasn't saying "The Army believes that..." he was just offering up his personal moral view of the situation. Would you have all officials be neutral vessels for the Official Government Position, without having values of their own? Posted by: Dave Taylor at March 15, 2007 2:17 PMAny Federal Employee has been giving the guidelines that clearly mark the line between personal belief and official comments.. and if you are in uniform you are officially representing the office for which you are employed. He was wrong to speak his opinion. He is allowed to have an opinion and give it out of uniform.. or on a blog done from his personal computer. In uniform he's not allowed to say his boss is a moron either. Very clear wording on these things. He has sworn an oath that states these things. He also isn't allowed to say, "Why these zealots believe in Christ is beyond me. Seems like mentioning God in our oaths and such is silly." Nor can he say, "Witches make excellent soldiers. Wiccans are most welcome.".. actually.. he probably can say the latter. He can state his opinion to wrong-doing.. ie.. whistle-blowing. That right has been restrengthend after the current presidential administration tried to weaken it. So.. if he specifically invokes certain parts of his written rights, he can state his opinion. Posted by: Dave C. at March 15, 2007 8:07 PMI disagree. "Don't ask, don't tell," was all the rage when I served, mainly because it was new. I wouldn't have signed up knowing that I would have to shower with lesbians. Midwestern Dude would most certainly not signed the dotted line if he were aware that he would be in the company of naked gay men. And ... schleppermom.. if your child is gay.. should they live their life in secret and feel ashamed of being themselves?? Can they follow in your footsteps and serve their country? Our country stands for Freedom.. Freedom to be you.. NOT Freedom to be what you think I should be. I'm straight.. and I have gay friends.. but I wouldn't call them gay.. I'd call them friends. Closed-minded people in all forms are simply ingnorant and fearful.. it's ashame .. I stupidly thought Attachment Parenting had people that gave unconditional love to kids... obviously not. Posted by: Dave C. at March 16, 2007 3:47 PMYes, if my kids are gay, I would not accept their lifestyle. But I will love them and pray for them, that they will want to be straight and go to heaven. I would advise them not to join the military because there are cruel straight soldiers who would and have raped gay soldiers. I think that it is beautiful and proper that my gay child would want to serve, but a gay soldier does not represent, as I've mentioned, American values. But that doesn't mean that I wouldn't let my adult gay child sleep in my home, eat the food from my cabinets. Albeit, I would not allow his lifestyle in my home. No gay porn. No gay friends. I was unaware that I had to be a leftist to practice Attachment Parenting. Posted by: schleppermom at March 17, 2007 5:33 AMI'm right there with you schleppermom!! Don't back down on what you believe in. The darkness of this world hates the light. Don't forget that Jesus was hated for glorifying His father by speaking against sin and offering freedom from sin. I, quite frankly, am disgusted with how "celebrated" homosexuality has become. I do believe it is a temptation just like any other sin and may be a struggle for some to overcome, but the Bible says that there is no sin that is too powerful for us to resist...God always provides a way of escape. Let's pray for our country; Hollywood and the media have such a powerful influence over vulverable minds who need the power of the gospel to transform their lives. I know I will be hated for saying this...it just proves how GOOD Jesus is and that everything He ever said was right and trustworthy. Praise Him forever and ever!!! : ) Here is a quote from Dennis Jernigan, a man who was formerly enslaved to a gay lifestyle and now has 9 children with his wife: Post a comment
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